They've been dead for years now. I stopped using them like over 5 years ago. The last few years that I used them, they were just to burn movies I downloaded online, since it was faster to burn them to CD, than to convert them to a DVD format and burn one of those. Considering they only hold about 700mb, they're more of a waste these days, when you can get a little flash stick that holds like 64 GB on just one.